The funny thing is everyone has to be like the liberals right? What about the liberals saying the war is horrible and everyone is wrong?

Why cant we say merry fucking christmas? The liberals are stopping us from saying it..the ACLU is fucking suing everyone!

Listen it comes down to rights..We have a right to religion..and we have a right to christmas. Stop saying the “religious right” is horrible..they have their own views. Liberals act like jerks sometimes too. Like the way they treated mel gibson. And the way they talk about the war , so angry.

Plus bush said happy holidays because there happen to be Jews and people who celebrate kwanza. He was being nice. Some of the christian organizations suck..like the ones who don’t like video games.

I agree with you there.
But I am a little annoyed that Bush could be that hypocritical.
Coming from someone who prides himself as being supposedly “christian” and oh so holy with his God Bless America malarkey and yet he can’t speak of “Christmas”
At the end of the day, whether people like it or not, Christmas is there the celebrate the birth of Jesus and in my opinion it doesn’t matter how or if you celebrate it but there should be at least some acknowledgement.

If Bush wants to send out Christmas cards, then I’m all for it. Coming from him it makes sense. But what I find odd is that some of these Christian organizations think you are being “un-Christian” if you say “Happy Holidays” instead.

look… i will say whatever i want at whatever time i see fit at whatever location i happen to be. i am in the other category as far as ethnicity goes. i say that to say this; i fear the day that the kkk, nazi party, and any other antisemite, hate group is not allowed to say what they want. because trust me…once they have been shut up you can bet ur sweet ass that you will be next. do i support any of these groups? no. do i agree with anything they say? no. do i believe that no matter how hateful their message, they should still be able to express it? yes. call me crazy but thats just being human.

merry christmas
happy hanukah
happy kwanzaa

i hate the holiday season anyway. but ill be damned if someone is gonna tell me how to celebrate it.

On January 16, it is the Martin Luther King day, not the Civil Rights day or the mid-January holiday.

On February 20th, it is the President’s Day, not the mid-February holiday.

On Feb 2, it is Groundhog Day, not varmit day.

On Feb 14, iit is Valentines Day, not hearts day.

On Mar 17, it is St. Patricks day, not Irish day.

On Apr 16, it is Easter, not egg day or bunny day.

You see where I am going. We call the holiday - whether we get it off or not - by the proper name. The Winter Festival - what are we celebrating? Happy Holiday - what holiday? What is it called? You call it by its name. Start calling MLK day by something else and see how many times you get slammed.

Let’s not even get started on Kwanzaa…

Please do not confuse evangelical politicians using their unique interpretations of Christianty to promote non-Christian policies and laws.
True Followers of Christ quietly and without recognition go about their lives following the teachings of Christ as recorded in the 4 gospels: Love thy neighbor (everyone), share your blessings of wealth freely with those who have none, tend to the sick, serve others with humility and an attitude of submission to others. These are the true characteristics of the Followers of Christ or Christians.
I do not see these characteristics in the policies or agendas of these high profile leaders of the religious right. There are millions of true Christians who do their best to love the unlovable. May they not be judged with the few. Peace be with all.

One says Happy Holidays because one doesn’t know what others might celebrate. One says Happy Holidays because there is more than one holiday during this season. Though I am a Christian, I say Happy Holidays to people I meet because I’m not presumptuous. Now I’m not supposed to do that because somehow that’s capitulating to the phantoms who have declared war on Christmas?

My question is this: If the president were Jewish and sent out a message saying Happy Chanukkah, would the folks spewing venom at Bush be spewing venom at the Jewish president because he wasn’t Christian or because he failed to consider the other religious holidays being celebrated? Either way, it doesn’t seem very Christ-like.

Oh, and, Dave, a whole lot of people call Thanksgiving Turkey Day.

Well, James, then a name is just a name, isn’t it? Thanksgiving isn’t a day we stop and remember all we hold dear. We needed to assign it an icon so we wouldn’t have to ponder the true meaning of the holiday, we could just associate with the cute, hapless turkey.

The sooner we whitewash all our holidays with PC names so as to not offend anyone, the sooner we succumb to retailors’ intentions of nutering all holidays for the sake of selling you crap. Happy “Winter Months Chock Full O’ Special Days For Everyone To Celebrate Simply Because It’s Cold Outside” to you.

I agree, those causing a big stink about this are way overreacting. It’s the serious slope that this trivial story is perched upon that has me concerned. By the way, I am not a religious man myself. I have no dog in this fight. I am just concerned with the certain elements of our society that are being marginalized simply because they are not a minority.

“so we wouldn’t have to ponder the true meaning of the holiday, we could just associate with the cute, hapless turkey.”

Christmas hasn’t been a Christian holiday in two decades. It’s a retail holiday. You think people have lost the meaning of thanksgiving? I agree.

We are not suggesting that we change holiday names to be more PC. My point is that there is nothing wrong, or anti-Christian about saying “Happy Holidays.” There are four major holiday in December. It’s easier to send out one card to everyone.

Strange how PC and liberal have become slurs when in actuality they’re merely terms that designate people or opportunities to consider alternative ideas or people of different backgrounds. (Of course, we could get into a rather large debate about semantics, linguistics, and the meaning of language. I’ve no plans to do that now.)

That being said, I’m not advocating a name change of any holiday. All I’m suggesting is that saying, “Happy Holidays” does nothing to damage the meaning of the particular holiday a person celebrates. It merely says, if it says even this, that a person realizes there is more than one holiday on or around December 25th this year. Why is that wrong?

Also, I think both Mark and Dave are right about holidays not meaning much more than another opportunity to sell us things we don’t really need. Is this because we refer to the days as something else or because retailers with commercials and promotions have convinced us that each holiday is merely another opportunity for us to save? Thanksgiving is no longer a day to reflect on all the good things we enjoy and help those less fortunate. It’s just the day before the biggest retailing day of the year. That has far less to do with being PC than it does with cash.

One more thing.

“Christmas hasn’t been a Christian holiday in two decades. It’s a retail holiday. You think people have lost the meaning of thanksgiving? I agree.”

Christmas also didn’t start as a christian holiday, so I guess its gone full circle, now hasn’t it?

True. It’s like holiday conquering. I say we take Canada’s Boxing Day and turn it into Wrasslin’ Day … er … never mind.